Dave: Well, good morning everyone, good morning, and welcome to Bumper To Bumper Radio. I am Dave Riccio, here alongside me is Matt Allen and we are here to help you with your car every Saturday from 11 to noon on 92.3 KTAR. At Bumper To Bumper Radio, we’re helping you, the motoring public, have a better overall car experience. If you’ve got car questions, we’ve got answers. So we encourage you to give us at 602-277-5827, 602-277-KTAR. If you’re shy, we’ll let you get away with sendin’ us a text at 411923 Today on the Bumper To Bumper Roadmap, Fact Or Fiction? about your vehicle. As always, we’re taking your texts and phone calls. And new fuel-efficient technologies, and one of the things we’re always talkin’ about on the show is al- how the rules have changed when it comes to your car. What worked 10 years ago doesn’t work now and what are some of the reasons this is happening
Matt: Well, Dave, I mean, the rules are definitely changing and part of it is self-inflicted. We as consumers want better fuel mileage we want more horsepower, uh-
Matt: and we don’t want to pay for with fuel mileage necessarily. The government wants us to have uh, better fuel mileage better CAFE ratings, or the manufacturers have better CAFE ratings, not be burnin up all these fossil fuels and stuff but, so, so that’s really the push is the manufacturers are being pushed by both the government and the consumers’ need. But I don’t think in the U.S., we don’t want to give up our horsepower though.
Dave: Well, yeah and the race is on because of these, you know, because the demand from the consumer for better fuel economy and also the demands from the government for better fuel economy. The race is on and everybody’s coming out with their new fluten- highfalutin technologies that’s supposed to save ya money in gas mileage and give you all the power in the world. And you know what? I believe it’s startin’ to work.
Dave: It’s really startin’ to work.
Matt: Yeah, it started to work and you know, the race is on, I think the race has already run and, uh, and we saw an example of that yesterday. Dave and I were invited to participate in the Ford Eco Boost Challenge yesterday. I didn’t know what the heck I was expecting goin’ out there. We get a phone call and they want the car guys to take a look. And, and what Eco Boost is, what Ford’s done they’ve taken a lot of this new technology things like, direct fuel injection, uh, turbocharging which is not new, been around forever, variable valve timing which has, eh,
Dave: Relatively new.
Matt: fairly new. And they’ve combined this. And that’s their Eco Boost. And, and, what Eco Boost is, it, again, it’s the combination of all these technologies and the Ford’s patented program and, and technologies. And, and it, and you get out of these Ford engines, everything you want: the power, the economy the, the-
Dave: Consumer saying, “What the heck is direct injection? What the heck is turbocharging? And what the heck is variable valve timing?” So let’s break those down because I’ve seen all of them by themselves on different vehicles. Direct injection has probably been one of the most effective things at, at making the car more efficient and powerful and instead runnin’ the, you know, the injection through the intake, we just drop it right on top of that piston.
Matt: Yeah, we’re puttin’ very extremely high pressure fuel directly right into the cylinder, right where the combustion’s happening so the fuel can get, I mean, there’s a whole lot of information behind this technology. we’re just gonna touch on a little bit. But the pressure, the fuel’s under very high pressure, goes right into the cylinder, it atomizes well. It, it so it burns more efficient and when it’s supposed to and it is right there, right on time, right when they want the fuel.
Dave: So that’s-
Matt: The direct injection.
Dave: That’s direct injection. Now, turbocharged, that’s something you only ever saw on a performance car. You know, some performance car might be supercharged, that’s one way of doin’ it. Some cars might be turbocharged. So what is that? That’s like jammin’ twice as much in a small hole with (Both laugh)
Matt: Yeah, uh, so, y-what the turbocharging, in turb-, you see ’em on an old tractor or diesel trucks. And, and you’re right Dave, it was always thought of in, uh in a sports car, you know thinkin’, “Oh, it’s gotta be a Porsche, it’s got a turbo charger or you know, name your hot rod but that’s not the case. Look in Europe, they’re, they’re using turbo chargers and have been for years. But it, it’s just the way that the exhaust drives a turbine, which then, and that’s the exhaust flow, the, the, comin’ up the tail- or not comin’ up the tailpipe, coming out of the engine, the exhaust is gonna, the pressure’s gonna turn into a turbine, which then is going to force on the other side it’s gonna pressurize the air that’s entering the engine. So normally, its, you’ve got your vacuum cleaner into the engine, just suckin’ that air in ‘cuz that’s what it does, it’s a pump. Well now you’re just jammin’ it in there.
Dave: Force feeding it.
Matt: Force feeding.
Dave: (Laughs) You will eat this.
Matt: Yes and you will like it. (Dave laughs) So we’re pourin’ that in and then we’re pourin’ the fuel in and these cars are makin’ some serious ponies, or horsepower.
Dave: So, so Eco Boost, they’ve done the direct injection and they said, “Hey, we’re gonna turbo charge it.” And the other thing is….
Matt: And, and one more. Then they’ve, what Ford’s done is they combined all three of these, and that’s where you get the Eco Boost, is the variable valve timing. And, and variable valve timing, again, goes back to the hot rod days. Maybe your, your car came stock and, and you wanted to just advance that camshaft timing just a little bit so you could go buy new cam gear where the, where the bolts that bolt it up were slotted a little bit, uh, or buy this new billet fancy deal that you can change it this or change it that. Well, variable valve timing it’s usually in the electronics in the oil pressure of the engine to control the valve opening and closing time, the duration, and, and again, you make that power exactly where you want when you want it to happen. You can control emissions with it, uh-
Dave: So then, before it was variable you were married to, “Hey this motor’s gonna make top torque and top quar- top horsepower at these ranges.
Dave: Because that cam was only cut and made one way and you could change cams to change that torque band, but you were married to it and now we can move it.
Dave: Just depending on the needs of the foot and the driver.
Matt: Unlimited, I mean, the computer’s looking at load on the engine, volume of air that’s in the engine, your, your, uh position on the throttle, who, there’s ton- hundreds of inputs of information, and, and they’ve got this mapped out. So that, that horsepower and that to- that power is there when you need it, right now.
Dave: Well, what’s a, what’s amazing and we’ll talk about this uh, this challenge that we went to yesterday. But they said, “Ok, dir-, you know direct injection, great thing. Turbocharge, we can actually turn down the size of the motor and get the same power, if not even more, with a smaller motor that eats less fuel. And then we got the variable valve timing and what they’re able to do is, with turbochargers there was turbo lag and they had some, some things were just were not that exciting.
Matt: Well, it did make ’em very drivable, you really knew when you were driving a turbo.
Dave: Something with a turbo, it’d spool up and Wooo! there we go, but, you know, now they can get, they can make 80% of the horsepower this thing produces just off of idle by using these three technologies, so-
Matt: Well, yeah and what we started with the yesterday, drivin’ the F150 with the Eco Boost, the brand new Ford F150 Eco Boost and then we drove the Silverado. Well, you drove first, I drove second, and I tell you what, drivin’ the Silverado and then driving the Eco Boost Ford? (Snaps fingers) Right now, I mean, you go to accelerate that, the weight of the truck it’s a bigger, you know, we’re talkin’ trucks, not little cars right now. So, the, a big truck like an F150, that thing got up and moved and I think it was 90% of the torque was delivered at only 1900 rpms.
Dave: And you have the full build by 2500 rpms.
Dave: Well, let’s tell them about it because they don’t have to listen about it from us, I mean, we’re gonna tell you about it, but they can also go do this themselves. Uh, out at University of Phoenix Stadium. Ford has its Eco Boost Challenge thing set up, so you can go out there and you can test drive all these cars. So what they had lined up was they had the trucks. So we drove a Chevy and then immediately after that we drove a Ford and that way we could get a real quick comparison. ‘Cuz you could drive one car at one lot, by the time you go grab lunch and go to the next lot, you kinda forget what it was like.
Dave: But this was, like, you know I got right out of the Chevy and I got in the Ford. And then we did that as the trucks and the next thing we did was we drove the Ford Escape, which right now, apparently the best-selling compact SUV, that’s what they said.
Matt: First quarter 2014 #1 selling SUV and I, I see why, you drive that thing, again, it’s nice and smooth.
Matt: But what I like, I’m a heavy foot, when you’re up on the gas, bye bye.
Dave: Well, it was funny ‘cuz we’re, we’re test driving these cars and I get in the Chevy and I’m not in my own car, so I’m being nice about it and I’m drivin’ it nice and then, and then we switch drivers and Matt jumps in the driver’s seat. (Laughs)
Matt: I didn’t hold anything back.
Dave: He drove the car like it was stolen and, and so I’m like, “Well, you know, no one seems to mind.” So then I got behind the wheel and I’m like, “Man, I’m gonna, I’m gonna flog this thing.”
Matt: (Laughs) Well, today, again Dave, we talk about the power, talk about how well the car runs in the performance, but the beauty of it is you don’t expect that you’re going to get the fuel economy. It’s usually give up one thing. There’s three things you want, you only get two.
Dave: Well and I’ve heard these commercials they, they, they call ’em the “fuel-sipping,” you know, they barely take in sips of, sips of fuel, but that, that F150, I was impressed. But then we drove a CRV and the Escape and then the other one we did was the, the Ford, uh-
Dave: Fusion sedan and then we did the Toyota Camry and so, it was a great time. And if you guys are interested in that, you can go out to University of Phoenix Stadium. I think they’re out there till 6:00 today. And when we come back, they let us race around the track in these little cars and, uh, you’ll find out who won between Matt and I and, uh, although I think it was little bit rigged. (Matt laughs) When we come back, we’re taking your phone calls, its 602-277-5827 602-277-KTAR You’re listening to Matt and Dave on Bumper To Bumper Radio.
Matt: Well, welcome back to Bumper To Bumper Radio. I’m Matt Allen, here along with Dave Riccio and we are here every Saturday morning, as usual, talking to you about your car, about cars in general. So if you have a car question, car problem, maybe you’re thinking about buying a new car and you’re wonderin’ our opinion of that car, you can give us a call 602-277-5827, 602-277-KTAR and of course you can text, as long as you’re not out there driving around and you wanna send in a text if you’re a little shy, uh, get us at 411923 And uh, again, questions, comments, anything there. So Dave and I were talkin’, eh, a little bit about the Ford Eco Boost Challenge which we got to participate in out yesterday at the University of Phoenix Stadium, still happening today, I believe till 6:00, right Dave?
Dave: ‘Till 6:00, go out and drive these cars.
Matt: Yeah and a lot of fun. And the next thing, the last thing that we didn’t get to, uh, in the last segment is we got to, they gave us the Ford Fiesta. I think it’s got a, a lil’ 1.1 liter, 1.3 liter Eco Tech engine, so it’s got the direct injection, the turbocharger, and the variable valve timing. And I know, you’re thinkin’, “Eh, Ford Fiesta.” Man what a hot rod that thing was! (Both laugh) They, they set us up on the autocross course and again, this is the consumers, you can go out there and do this. So they have a timed course and, and, uh, and you really get the feel of the performance out of this car, the braking, I don’t think the fuel economy was so good the way were driving yesterday. (Laughs)
Dave: No, no.
Matt: Because we were really wrappin’ ’em up. So Dave thinks it was rigged a little bit, but I, I, you know when we went to Bond Route last thing I think I, last time, I, I’m pretty sure I put, put a schoolin’ on you then too, didn’t I?
Dave: You got me, you got me. But Matt came in it at 35.115 seconds through the course and I came in at 35.632 seconds through the course. But you know, Matt was pushin’ a little harder, he hit a few cones, I felt like I was drivin’ somebody else’s car, I didn’t wanna be too hard on it.
Matt: (Laughs) You are so full of it.
Dave: But those times are posted on our Facebook page, so you can go to bumpertobumperradio.com, hit our Facebook link and you can find those and hey, we challenge you to go out and beat those times. So, uh, we’re not gonna, we’re gonna throw out Matt’s cuz I think it’s rigged. Mine was-
Matt: If you can beat Dave, he’ll buy you a Big Mac.
Dave: (Laughs) 35.632 and it, it really was a lot of fun. Uh, they give you a little bit of instruction, you know, brake here, turn here, you know. But I didn’t take out, you hit a cone on the course. Mmhmm.
Matt: That was not on my fast lap dude, that was on my slow lap. (Dave laughs) And it was only one, so-
Dave: I didn’t hit any cones, so- Up first this segment, we’re gonna go with Mark in Scottsdale on a 2006 Toyota Corolla. Go ahead Mark, you are on Bumper To Bumper Radio.
Mark: Yes, thanks. Now, the car’s rarely driven, maybe once every two weeks and I had a brand new tire on it, and this is the second time it’s happened, I had no more than 8- 10,000 miles on it, and the thing, the whole thing peeled off on me and, and it did like $1500 worth of damage on the side of my car. And the one prior to that, same brand, did about $800 worth of damage. Is that normal?
Matt: Well, no it’s not. Sorry Dave, I cut you off there, but what, which tire, not what brand, but what position on the car is it and then how old is the tire?
Mark: Well, they’re both in the rear and one of the tires was there since about 2010, but I bought the tire about 5 years before, I just let it sit in the garage.
Dave: Right, well, there’s a cou-, there’s a couple things goin’ on and I did spend my early years workin’ in a tire shop and one of the things, I’m gonna go over some things that everyone can benefit from. Tires have a shelf life of 5 years, you know? And you can, you can run ’em longer than that, by all means, but at that point, you’re starting to get into the zone where we might have the thing come apart, so that’s one thing to keep in mind. The other thing is, is that, you know, you’re able to turn that, you know, you, you had the car damage from the tread coming off, it sounds like to me. You know, so if it threw some tread, turn it in to your insurance company, that, that is a big repair. And the one thing that’s cool about insurance companies is that they actually log all this information. What kinda tire it was, you know, what the circumstances were, and for them, it goes into their database. And when they can see a problem like they did with the Ford Explorers back in the day, uh, with those things rollin’ over? That’s, the insurance companies are what said, “Hey, we got a problem here because this is happening on all these Ford Explorers.
Matt: But it ended up bein’ the tire that was the problem, not necessarily the Ford Explorer.
Dave: Correct. Correct, so they were, you know, the, the treads were comin’ up. The other thing that can happen is people will run around with tires with a slow leak or low air in ’em? And what that does, you need that tire full of air so it doesn’t create heat in the tire, mmkay? So if it’s low on air, you’re gonna build up heat in the sidewall of the tire and the tire will fail prematurely. So, in the tire business, when people came in and they had a, they had a, uh, a tire where the tread came off and they’d say, “Hey, you know, hey this tire is a, you know, XYZ Acme tire and the side of my car is all damaged and you people owe me money. Well, we’d go take the tire apart and we’d find a ho-, we’d find a nail hole and a nail that’d been there for a while. So they’ve been running the tire low and you only gotta run ’em low, you know, 5, 10 pounds for any length of time and that will happen. So as consumers, you gotta make sure, I mean, now we’ve got tire monitoring lights, but don’t ignore that light for a long time like I do. (Laughs)
Matt: Well, exactly and I wanna go back, back to, uh, the beginning there. He said the tire was on about 2010-
Dave: But it was 5 years old.
Matt: and then about 5 years before that, we’re 2014 now. So that tire at, at its youngest is 8-9 years old. I don’t know why you bought a tire 5 years ago and let it sit in the garage, but maybe it was already 3 years. So now we’re talkin’, maybe if it was 3 years old before that, now we’re talkin’ somewhere between an 11 and 13 year old tire, depending on how you slice it up and, and it’s important. You can go look at the sidewall of the tire there’s a DOT number and it will have an ending. For example, if the car was made the 4th week of 2014 it’s gonna be 0414. Again, that’s the 4th week of 2014. So if you’re buying your tire somewhere, you wanna make sure you’re not gettin’ a tire that’s already 2 or 3 years old. You want newer inventory.
Dave: Right, good stock, stock that’s rotated, so the new stuff. That is a great question Mark, and something I think everybody can benefit from. I noticed you were in Scottsdale, so if you do need a good shop that does tires and alignments, you’re right down the street from Whitey’s Auto Repair, great shop in Scottsdale. North end of Scottsdale we’ve got Airpark Auto Service, see Aaron out there. And we are going to go with, looks like Star in Avondale on a Sentra that she wants to buy. Go ahead.
Star: Yes, hi, I actually, Sienna.
Star: Yes, I was wondering, I’m thinking of the newer Siennas and there’s the L series and the LE series, and the XL series. So I’m thinking, what is the, the difference? Other than the leather seats and you know, the little bit of difference of the body?
Matt: Well, I, on I think, on most cars and, and I can’t specifically say the Sienna for sure. But the acronym at the end, the LX, EX, LXI, super duper, whatever it is. That’s pretty much gonna dictate the trim level.
Dave: Trim or the option package, depending on the way you’re lookin’ at.
Matt: Yeah, options. So, you, you’ll have maybe the LX, for example, doesn’t have leather, uh, but it’s got the, you know, the, the basic engine and cloth seats and some of the other features. Nice stereo or something. That might be the LX. You go to the EX, uh, model and that one’s gonna have, maybe it’s got the bigger engine, the 3.5 liter, or whatever it is and then it will have leather and then by virtue of getting leather, then you probably get the navigation and, and you get the, uh, you know, you get the moonroof. So there’s a lot of different options there that you’ll be able to notice.
Dave: For sure. When we come back, we’ve got open lines at 602-277-5827, 602-277-KTAR You can also text us at 411923 and get us at bumpertobumperradio.com We’ll be right back. Well, welcome back to Bumper To Bumper Radio. I am Dave Riccio, here along with Matt Allen and we are here helping you with your car every Saturday from 11 to noon. We want you to have a better overall car experience. To get a hold of us, 602-277-5827, 602-277-KTAR And I will mention that we’ve got a, a new lady workin’ the boards. We’re gonna miss Peter, but he’s changing shifts, so we’ve had a, a long relationship with Peter and Peter helped us learn the ropes. But we’ve got Briana, so if you guys are callin’, she’s new screening phones today. So all she needs to know is: what your name is, what part of town you’re in, and what you drive and we’ll take it from there. And be friendly because she’s got a lot on her plate, bein’ her first day. But, she says she’s ready for the challenge, so 602-277-5827, 602-277-KTAR and you can text us at 411923. Matt, and you said you wanted to go back and talk about that last phone call in regard to option packages and that was Star who called who was looking to buy a new Sienna.
Matt: Yeah, I-
Dave: I don’t-
Matt: I’m workin’ here, I, I don’t have my headphones turned up very loud-
Dave: He thinks he can beat me on the racetrack, he can’t even work a microphone.
Matt: Alright, alright. (Dave laughs) I guess my only point with that is on, on this Sienna, or any other car, just look at all the different option packages and, and they’re gonna be packaged in a way where sometimes you just get with, what, what they got. When you get leather, you get the sunroof. When you get leather, maybe you get the nav, uh, I like the loaded car. If you’re gonna spend the money, get everything. But I think the other thing that I wish I would have done when I bought my last new car? Is actually went out and drove it and did more of just the regular test drive. If you’re buying a Sienna minivan and I’m guessing maybe you’ve got kids? Maybe you’ve got carseats, uh, maybe there’s 3 or 4 those things, booster seats happening, you’ve got the family. Take the whoooole family to the car dealership, be like the Griswolds.
Dave: Load ’em up. Load ’em up.
Matt: Tell that salesman, you’re either goin’ with us or you can stay here, but we’re goin’ for a drive. We’re gonna put, buckle the car seats in and make, get the kids sit where they wanna sit, and make sure all that stuff fits because I didn’t do that and my car seats don’t fit in the car now. (Dave laughs)
Matt: You know? It, it’s a disaster sometimes.
Dave: It’s a, it’s a mess. And you know, I notice that Ford is really bringing back the van ‘cuz they got the Traverse, you know? The Traverse was kind of a, uh, cargo van, you know? So the door’s been tested. Is it, is it a Traverse or am I sayin’ that wrong?
Matt: I dunno.
Dave: You know that-
Matt: Transit. Ford Transit.
Dave: Transit, that’s the one I was lookin’ for. It was kind of a commercial vehicle, you know, so the door’s been tested, 55,000 times opened and closed, so it’s built to last. But now they’re puttin’ in nice seats and windows and sunroofs and all that stuff. So that’s another possibility out there on the market for you. So you might check that out and they got those down there at the, the uh Eco Boost Challenge.
Matt: I was talkin’ to my wife Edith about that Traverse- I, see I said Traverse now. (Dave laughs) This thing’s all slaughtered Dave. The Transit
Dave: The Transit.
Matt: I thought ‘cuz, you know, she hates drivin’ our Excursion and, uh, maybe sometimes ‘cuz she doesn’t know which one is ours.
Dave: (Laughs) That’s what I think too.
Matt: But this might be an option, this is 7 passengers, eh, it doesn’t have the room to load everything up like we sometimes need to do, but for zippin’ around town I thought that was a pretty, a pretty neat vehicle. I don’t know if we’ll get into my story of-
Matt: it was Thursday night or not.
Dave: Yeah. It is pretty funny. I don’t know if Edith will appreciate me sharing that story. (Both laugh) So let’s get to the phones. We are gonna go with Doug, nope, sorry I’m not gonna go with Doug, I’m gonna go with Dennis in Phoenix on a Dodge Ram. Go ahead Dennis, you’re on Bumper To Bumper Radio.
Dennis: Yeah, hey guys, um, I’m in the process of thinkin’ of buyin’ a, uh, quarter ton pickup and I went to that, uh, Eco Boost Challenge Ford had, and, to test drive and see, ‘cuz I figured that was a good way to do it and they didn’t have any Dodge Ram 1500s there. I know Dodge just changed everything, uh, they went from leaf springs to coil springs and everything. What is your take on that stuff?
Dave: You know, I haven’t, I haven’t, uh, I haven’t driven the Dodge to really know or really give a good opinion but I know, you know, if they went to coil springs over leaves, oh, I bet you it’s got a lot more plush ride than it used to. Uh, I went to a mountain bike race with guy who just is, in a, you know, 2014 Dodge. I mean, he loves it. He says, man, thing runs like a, scolded dog. (Matt laughs) ‘Cuz I don’t have a new term for that. You know? It runs really good, but, uh, you know, I mean, the Ford? I was impressed. He drove the Ford, he drove the Dodge. Maybe it’s a personal preference thing.
Matt: Yeah, that’s what I was about to say. It’s just a matter of personal preference, just get out and drive all, all 3 of ’em. You know, I think the reason they didn’t have the Dodge there is they picked the class leaders. So Silverado and, and the F150 have been the class leaders, so they’re not really competing against 3rd or 4th place necessarily.
Dave: Which car do you think smelled better? The Ford or the Chevy?
Matt: The Ford.
Dave: The Ford did smell better?
Matt: It had that, yeah, it had a different smell. Maybe ‘cuz you were in the Chevy first and left a little bit of funk behind or sumthin’, I don’t- (Dave laughs) I don’t know.
Dave: So yeah, that’s gonna be personal preference, you know, go, you know you don’t buy a car every day so a knee jerk purchase is generally not a good one. Go test it out like, like Matt said you know, if you’re, if you’re looking for a mini van, go load up the kids, throw ’em all in there and see if it’s really gonna work ‘cuz you hate to find- You know, one time a, a buddy of mine bought a car from the fleet department that he didn’t see, bought it, you know and he’s drivin’ away from the lot and he says, “Oh man, this thing doesn’t have cruise control.”
Matt: Whoopsy daisy.
Dave: A car without, you know, it was a late model car, a car without cruise control? I’d be ticked. (Laughs)
Dave: So anyway, we are gonna go to Doug in Glendale on a 2007 Dodge Ram. Go ahead Doug, you’re on Bumper To Bumper Radio.
Doug: Afternoon gents, how you doin’?
Dave: Fantastic, what can we do for you today?
Doug: Anyway, don’t have a lot of minutes left on my phone, so I’m gonna just ask my question and hang up and listen, if you don’t mind.
Dave: You bet.
Doug: Uh, anyway, uh, bought a 2007 Dodge Ram, probably about 4 years ago. It has very low mileage on it, got a pretty good deal. Been very happy with the truck since then. But recently, the air conditioning’s startin’ to blow a little bit warm. Um, I was at an Auto Zone the other day, a really nice gentleman was helpin’ me out and he suggested there was, I don’t know, this can of sumthin’, the, that he, like Super Cool or sumthin’, he said. And all I had to do was hook it up and spray this stuff in there, it would seal any leaks that I had in the system and then recharge it and it should work just great. As long as the system was working, he said that this stuff would work and it was fantastic. And I just, I, I’m hesitant about anything that you just pour into something.
Dave: Well, I’m, uh-
Doug: It could be a problem.
Dave: Uh, yeah.
Doug: Am I right or wrong?
Dave: I am holding Matt back right now, just holding him back ‘cuz he can’t wait to say sumthin’ about additives. Go ahead Matt, what do you think?
Matt: Well, no, I, the key thing that, that he said right towards the end is, “If the system is working right, this stuff will work.”
Matt: Well, that’s why you’re there, it’s not working right and, secondly, you really don’t know yet if the air conditioning is working right or not. That air conditioning may be working just fine, your problem could be your heater.
Matt: And the way I, the reason I say that is that Dodge trucks have had a problem with the blend door. So when you turn your air conditioning, you know whether it’s at, you dial it in to 76 degrees or you turn the dial or it’s a little bit of red and a lot of blue or all blue or, or whatever the combination is to achieve your temperature. It doesn’t cycle the air conditioning necessarily to achieve that temperature. Like your house would, it’s gonna run it and then it’s gonna shut it off. Your car’s air conditioner’s running all the time and so it’s gonna accomplish the, the temperature inside the cab by moving some heat from the heater into the cabin, blending that air. So what you may find in your Dodge truck is that the blend door’s not working and the air conditioner itself is working just fine. It can make cold air it’s produc- it’s capable of producing the cold air, you’re just not getting the right blend of air. So that’s the first thing I would check before you go start puttin’ miracle sauce into the, into the system. Because the second thing you might find is if a shop finds out that that’s in there, they may not work on your air conditioner.
Dave: Miracle sauce.
Dave: I call it mechanic in a can, not miracle sauce.
Matt: Miracle juice, whatever it is, it’s just this snake oil, you know?
Dave: How do they get all those little AC technicians into that bottle is amazing to me. (Laughs)
Matt: Yeah, so-
Dave: So, I’m gonna go to the text. That’s a great question Doug and it’s something everybody can deal with. Is there something that’ll fix everything?
Dave: You, you look like you kinda wanna say something, but I think we should get to to the text.
Matt: You can get to the text.
Dave: All right, lemme see, lemme see what we got. We’ve got one here, a gentleman has, uh, well, first one, we can take this one right away. “Hi guys, we’re in Mesa, where’s a good place to get a quote on a leaking valve cover? Thanks, Bob.” Bob, we’ve got a couple good shops in Mesa. We got Mesa Autoworks, we had those guys on with us last week. Good family run operation, they’ve been in business 20 years and uh, Stan Sr.’s been in the industry for a long, long time. Before I was born, (Both laugh) that’s for sure. So we’ve also got uh, Accurate Automotive is another good choice. You can find those guys at bumpertobumperradio.com There’s a list of great shops, maybe you work, maybe you live in Mesa and work in a different part of town. If you go to that website, you find that too, so what’s closer to work or closer to home. Uh, also, I’ve got a text here: how to install zerk fittings on my 2002 7.3 F250 in the drive shaft, let me see, drive shaft to grease pack it. You know, and that’s, it’s, it’s, he’s driving obviously. Don’t text and drive, not good. (Laughs) It’s hard for me to read.
Matt: That autocorrect, you, you take Dave’s reading skills along with autocorrect and we’re in big trouble. (Both laugh)
Dave: Big trouble and not only that, when I’m reading, the screen re- refreshes on me all the time, so it, it moves, it’s like, you know, it’s trickin’ me. And Matt and I were talkin’ about this during the break ‘cuz we read this text, grease zerks have disappeared from cars, and especially from u-joints. And I find a factory u-joint has no grease zerk. A u-joint without a grease zerk is technically stronger than a u-joint with a grease zerk because what they have to do to get all that grease out to all the caps? Is they have to put a nice hollow port down the center to get that grease out to the caps. So they eliminated those for strength and I’m findin’ more and more, you know, even the drive shaft shops are goin’ to the non-greasable u-joints. It feels like I can’t maintain it and sumthin’ doesn’t feel right about that, but it is a better thing.
Matt: Yeah, if it’s makin’ noise or something, you don’t need to grease it, you need to replace it. And, and I don’t know if part of this was born, you know, the Japanese cars: Hondas and Toyotas, you never would see grease or zerk fittings on the front end of those and, and now the American cars are going that way too. But the, the other problem that people have is, you know, you’re at the lube shop and it’s a little bit of the case of a little is good so it’s a lot, a lot is better? Well, if you’re doing that, your own maintenance at home, you don’t wanna pump a budget grease into that, to the fittings whether it’s the ball joint, the drive shaft, the tie rod end, whatever the case is. Just pump it just enough to see that belt swell just slightly and that’s gonna be plenty of grease. Because otherwise, then what happens is you break the boot, it, the grease is gooin’ and hangin’ outta there-
Dave: And dust is gettin’ in there.
Matt: And now the dirt starts to attract and get stuck in there. (Sound clip: “Bend over and I’ll show ya!”) Well, that’s not what I- It’s time for Fact or Fiction? (Laughs) That’s not what I was goin’ for but- Apparently I’m not very good with the dials. Fact or Fiction? for the day is that I can use walnuts to clean my fuel system in my car. Fact or Fiction?Matt looks confused already. (Laughs)
Matt: You’re (Laughs) (Gum smacks) you’re confusing me today.
Dave: You can’t chew gum and get on the air man, swallow that thing! (Laughs)
Matt: I was thinkin’ about that too, I was just over here like (Chews gum loudly) chompin’ away. So what is it again? Fact or Fiction? You can use walnuts. Yeah.
Dave: Walnuts to clean your fuel system.
Matt: So what you do, is you go to Costco and get, they have walnuts for baking and you grind them all up (Dave laughs) and then pour-
Dave: No, you don’t wanna do that.
Matt: Walnuts, yes. Cars have problems with, with carbon buildup in the engine.
Dave: And this is a newer problem with this direct injection we’re talkin’ about.
Matt: It is a byproduct of that, but still, we’ve had carbon buildup problems forever and I believe BMW was the, one of the first ones to start doing this, using walnuts. And what they’re doing is they’re using walnut shells. So it’s just an, uh, a material that’s not gonna cause damage to the engine and you pull the intake manifold off of the car and instead using a sandblaster, the medium that we’re using is walnut shells, ground up walnut shells. And you blast that into the engine to remove carbon from the valves and then when it gets pumped through the engine, unlike sand, it’s not gonna destroy everything. So that’s Fact.
Dave: That’s a Fact. You guys from Virginia Auto Service are so smart. (Both laugh) When we come back, we’ve got Ron and Joey and maybe time for another phone call at 602-277-5827 You’re listening to Matt and Dave on Bumper To Bumper Radio.
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Matt: Welcome back to Bumper To Bumper Radio, I’m Matt Allen and this other guy is Dave Riccio. And again, we’re here every Saturday from 11 to noon helping you with your car. A lot of things, uh, we’ve been talking about today: the Ford Eco Boost Challenge, which you can still go participate in out at University of Phoenix Stadium, new technologies in cars, direct injection, turbocharging, variable valve timing, uh, using walnuts to clean your uh, fuel injection (Dave laughs) system, well not the fuel injection, but the engine. So a lot of car stuff goin’ on and Dave, uh, I know you, you were smilin’ a little but this morning, we were talkin’ when we got here, and you were all jazzed up about a little baseball game you had goin’ on last night. Were you at the D-backs? Or what?
Matt: Actually it was the D-backs.
Dave: The junior D-backs, my son is 9 years old and he loves baseball, he loves football, he just love sports. I like sports, but not as much as my son. You know, he wakes up, you know, Saturday morning, watches college football all day, goes to bed, watch- wakes up, watches NFL all day long Sunday and, and that’s how he spends his weekend, but he loves baseball and he’s wanted to pitch for the longest time. And uh, every now and then he gets nervous about pressure and stuff like that and, so he, he got his first chance to pitch last night. And he went out there and he was super nervous and I was more nervous than him.
Matt: Stage fright? (Laughs)
Dave: Yeah, I, but he went in there, smooth, good rhythm, struck the first guy out and I was like, (whispers “Yes”) Inside, I was like scre- I was like sh- you know, happy. And then he struck the second guy out and I was like, (To himself, “Oh my goodness.”) Good job boy! And then he walked the third guy, he was out there down on himself a little bit, but he came back and struck out the third guy. Man, I was so proud, I took him out to Grimaldi’s last night for a little celebration. But it was a good time. Looove baseball.
Matt: Now, do you, do you, I used to be a yeller. (Laughs)
Matt: At the kids’ sports, I stopped now but, you know, at, at first I was all excited and riled up and like, (Whisper mimics yelling “Go run, yeahhh!!!”) (Dave laughs) You know, and after a couple years, I go, “Oh ok, I gotta mellow out a little bit.” I don’t want everybody looking at me. (Laughs)
Dave: Right. I had, I had to tune that down ‘cuz apparently I can yell pretty loud.
Dave: I, I can run over a 9 year old pretty easy if I’m not careful so… (Both laugh) I gotta remember be positive. be positive. We are gonna go with Ron in Phoenix on a 2005 Toyota Sienna, not Sentra (Laughs) Go ahead Ron, you’re on Bumper To Bumper Radio.
Ron: Yeah, hi, um, uh, my problem is the uh, Sienna doesn’t coast like it used to, uh, you know I had a flush in uh, uh, December by Toyota. Uh, the oil’s been changed every 30,000 miles, there’s only uh 80,000 miles on their now. Uh, what I’m noticing is that when you’re coming to a stop, say a oh, maybe a block away, or half a block, you take your foot off the gas, uh, she wants to drop down in 3rd gear and then it goes back to 4th and then back to 3rd. So if I shift it manually to 3rd and then you know, ride in 3rd gear for a min- a second and go back to 4th gear, everything is alright.
Dave: Hmm, the uh, you know, so you’re lettin’ out the gas and it’s not, it’s not coasting, it just feels like it’s slowing down on its own quicker than it should?
Dave: Ok, well, that’s a late enough model that, uh you know, it probably ought to have what we call a relearn. And you know, if, if you notice, you’ve been driving this car for a number of years, you know something is different. You know, that’s where it would be worth takin’ a look because the it, you know, the vehicle could be engine braking when it didn’t used to. So maybe, you know, it should be a 4 or 5 speed automatic transmission, you know maybe it’s a gear lower than it used to be. You know that’s all, the transmission shifts how and when it’s told to and there’s a computer that operates all that. So, a lot of times we see software on these computers get corrupted over the time, over time, and it needs to be reprogrammed or refreshed. So at Tri-City Transmission, we’re actually updating software to get ’em to work the way they should work because they’re gettin’ corrupted over time. You look confused.
Matt: Well, no, it could be that, it could be a number of different things. But like you said, something’s, if it’s physically downshifting the engine, it’s not because the tire pressure’s are, like have 10 pounds of pressure in ’em. Its not because it’s got the wrong tires or there’s a bag wound up in the, in the drive shaft. (Both laugh) Or just, mak- you know, just something crazy.
Matt: The, the computer’s telling it to do something so the computer’s either got its wires crossed and, and its head is all screwy or there’s an input that’s giving bad information to the computer that-
Dave: Yeah, you could have a, you could have a throttle position sensor reading wrong and that could change the gear you were in. You could have a speed sensor reading wrong, that could change your gear that you’re in. So there’s a whole lot of factors that go into that computer to tell the transmission how and when to shift and even the engine how to run, so we could have an engine issue going on here, where it’s engine braking where it didn’t used to. So, looks like some diagnostic work is gonna be done, you know? That would bother me.
Matt: Yeah, someth-, something needs to be done. Speaking of, uh, you know, we’re talkin’ about doin the little cars on the track and driving the deal yesterday. Tonight on Central, if you like cars, and you want to get out, there’s, tonight is the Cruise On Central and you’d be amazed at what kinda cars and hot rods and classics and import cars. I mean, you see people out there, just cruisin’ up and down Central and you have anywhere from your 16 year old kids in their car, all the way up to senior citizens drivin’ their old classic that they’ve restored. You see people that drive their cars or haul their cars out there on trailers just to then cruise up and down Central. And the police are very cooperative, they get people out there rippin’ burnouts down Central Avenue. You won’t see that, uh, much any other time of year except for doing Cruise On Central. So, if you like cars and hot rods and you wanna go check that out. I know I’m going out there a little bit later this afternoon and uh, around Park Central Mall. Really neat.
Dave: For sure.
Matt: Just a spectacle, if you will, to go see.
Dave: We got Jeff and Joey on the line still. We’re not gonna be able to get to you during the show, but we’re gonna take it after the show. And I’m gonna address one of these texts real quick if I can. “2000 Mercedes-Benz E320 Sedan and the AC sometimes will take up to 20 minutes before it blows cold. Then sometimes it blows cold right out of the gate for a few minutes, then warms up and takes a long time to blow cold again. Can you help?” Sounds like a fun one. What are you thinkin’?
Matt: Well, on that one, I mean, it says there’s no codes in, in the system but I don’t know, I’m assuming you’re talking about the air conditioning control modular if someone’s got the right scan tool to go in there and check. But I do know on the Mercedes, if they get low on charge, the computer will shut them down. We had one just the other day that we serviced, we brought the charge level back up, but it still wouldn’t engage. We had to go back in and clear the codes from the system and, and, uh, and get everything relearned. So on an air conditioner, the most important thing to do is start by making sure that you’ve got the proper charge level in the system. If the, the, if the air conditioner’s not fully charged, and charged properly, it can’t work right. So you’ve gotta start from there. I mean, we could be low 2 ounces, we could be overcharged 2 ounces and we’re gonna influence h-how the, that system is going to perform. So first and foremost, start there and then once it’s, it’s got a good charge level on it, then it’s just a matter of going through and making sure the right switches and sensors and inputs and outputs and everything is working and will make the cold air.
Dave: Well, we appreciate you joining us and uh, thanks uh, Briana, did a great job for the first day on the show and thanks Peter for uh, givin’ her some good instruction. I think she did well screenin’ the phones. If you’re lookin’ for a great shop to start a relationship with, you can always find one at bumpertobumperradio.com that’s bumperto , T O, bumperradio.com while you’re there, there’s a Facebook link, you can be sure to like us on Facebook. Click on that, you can see our scores from the Eco Boost Challenge from yesterday and be sure to head out there and see if you can beat Matt. We’ll see you next week.